I HAVE A 36 KW INFRARED HEATER 240 VOLTS HAS 3 HOT LINES,WHAT SIZE THE PORTABLE GENERATOR I NEED AND AMPS ALSO?


, , , ,

  1. #1 by billrussell42 on January 29, 2010 - 1:58 am

    You need a 40 kW or 50 kW generator.

    this is 150 amps. You will need a plug and socket rated at that current (and I don’t know of any) and wire rated at 150 amps, such as #3 AWG.

    .

  2. #2 by Frank on January 29, 2010 - 1:58 am

    That sounds like a GIANT heater. it would take 15 amps of 240v if 36kw is the electrical wattage. You would probably want a 5000w generator.

  3. #3 by Irv S on January 29, 2010 - 1:58 am

    If you really need 36KW in three phase load, you’re out of the ‘portable’ class.
    You’d need a pick-up or trailer to move it around.
    You’re looking for about 90A. at 240 three phase delta.
    That’s a pretty rare configuration though, (rural, industrial).
    Are you sure you’re reading the nameplate right?
    You’d have a 100A. load at the more noraml 208V. 3 Phase.
    Unless the unit ‘comes on’ in stages, you’d need at least a 50KVA
    M/G set to handle the ’start’ surge.
    Careful. An infra-red heater that big requires a lot of clearance
    from ‘combustibles’ and personnel for safe operation.

  4. #4 by artsupremo on January 29, 2010 - 1:58 am

    You will need a 45 kVa 230 volt 3-phase generator. Amperes = 46000/230(0.8)(1.732}

  5. #5 by Violet W on January 29, 2010 - 1:58 am

    Hard to believe there are so many different answers given. I’ll base mine on US practice.

    If you truly have a 240V 3-phase load (3 hots, no neutral), then the load amperage is calculated as follows:
    I = 36kW/0.24kV/sqrt(3)=86.6A=87A

    For resistance heat, minimum conductor size (ampacity) is 125%, or 125% x 87A = 109A. Select wire with 90degC insulation but apply it at its 75degC ampacity. Select 2 AWG, type THWN-2 or THW-2 (for wet or dry locations) or optionally THHN (for dry locations only).

    Your circuit breaker should be loaded to 80% maximum (=109A). The next standard size up is 110A. Select 110A breaker (or fuses).

    Resistive loads do not have a significant starting kVA, unlike motors. But it is a good idea not to load generators up to 100%. Limit it to 80%. Then the minimum generator size is:
    36kW/80% = 45kW

    Be careful when selecting a generator. Generators are rated in both kW and kVA, using an 80% power factor, where the kVA = kW/PF = 45kW/.80 = 56.25 kVA. So the minimum size generator should be rated:
    56kVA/45kW (or larger).

    If you are running the generator in stand-alone mode, then you will need to ground either the common point of a wye output (240/138V generator), or the midpoint of one winding of a delta output (240/120V generator).

    =====
    Note: Since this is a purely resistive device, you can choose to power it from a 208V generator. The power will decrease with the square of the voltage, to a new value of:
    P=36kW x (208/240)^2 = 27kW

    This would require a 208V generator (probably configured 208/120V) with a minimum power rating of:
    42kVA/34kW

    Load is 27kw/.208kV/sqrt(3)=75A
    Wire ampacity = 75Ax125%=94A
    select 3 AWG, same types as above
    Breaker or fuses: 94A minimum, select next size up: 100A

(will not be published)

Powered by Yahoo! Answers